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BBC Radio 2 Benny Goodman Docu - Krupa Query
BBC Radio 2 have started a good documentary series on BG.http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00n8196
I have a query. The presenter refers to 'Room 1411' by Bennie Goodmn & His Boys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAcclMpFSVk
It is claimed that Gene is the drummer. The listing on YouTube and Red Hot Jazz says Ben Pollock.
The blocks in the first chorus are not typical Gene of the period. There is some early ride behind McPartland's cornet, which is interesting in itself. The fills do not to my ears sound like Gene's work from this period.
Compare with the Bix Recording of 'Deep Down South'.
You can hear a pronounced snare off beat on the first chrous, which is sounds different to the Goodman track.
What do you all think?
I have a query. The presenter refers to 'Room 1411' by Bennie Goodmn & His Boys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAcclMpFSVk
It is claimed that Gene is the drummer. The listing on YouTube and Red Hot Jazz says Ben Pollock.
The blocks in the first chorus are not typical Gene of the period. There is some early ride behind McPartland's cornet, which is interesting in itself. The fills do not to my ears sound like Gene's work from this period.
Compare with the Bix Recording of 'Deep Down South'.
You can hear a pronounced snare off beat on the first chrous, which is sounds different to the Goodman track.
What do you all think?
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Permalink Reply by jerry brennan on -
This is very easy to answer! Gene is not the drummer on this recording,and it is Ben Pollack. The best discography in my opinion is probably the one that Russ Connor produced, and is a must for Gene fans. Gene's first association with BG recording wise, took place April18, 1929 with a group led by Red Nichols. Room 411 was recorded June 4, 1928.
On a separate note to jump from 1928 to the Bix record you mention of September 8, 1930 is a huge leap forward with many sessions made with Gene doing some very interesting drumming in a wide variety of settings. This would explain my disapiontment at the GK Tribute on Radio 2 that should and could have been much much better to the man I have idolised for 44 years.
I look forward to any comments you have.
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Permalink Reply by John Petters on -
Hi Jerry,
Many thanks for the reply. My ears tell me it is not Gene. The fills and the overall feel is not his.
I've got most of his early recordings and as you rightly say there is some very interesting drumming.
Interesting that he had an early flirtation with the ride cymbal around 1930 and then doesn't resurrect until the Goodman period - and then only sparingly.
Yes Radio 2 could have done better with the early stuff. A longer run of the show would have been welcome
Keep swinging
John
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